Pritlog Translation - would this help?

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Pritlog Translation - would this help?

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Started 3 years ago by Prit
Latest reply from Bert

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Prit
Pritlogger

I have tried and moved all the english text to a separate file and called it english.php. The format looks like this:

$lang['sidebarLinkHome'] = 'Home';
$lang['sidebarLinkNewEntry'] = 'New Entry';
$lang['sidebarLinkArchive'] = 'Archive';
$lang['sidebarLinkRSSFeeds'] = 'RSS Feeds';
$lang['sidebarLinkAdmin'] = 'Admin';

So for translation, if these words are modified, it should work. Pritlog48e - the new test blog is using this file.

Would this approach be easier for translation or would it be easier to translate if only the english words were there on the file - 1 per line - something like this:

Home
New Entry
Archive
RSS Feeds
Admin
List all comments

Please let me know your comments.

Posted 3 years ago #
john
Member

I think the $lang['sidebarLinkHome'] = 'Home'; approach is more clear and flexible to add comments or modify things.

John

Posted 3 years ago #
Bert
Member

Wow, Wordpress should start worrying ;)

I agree with John, also because your first solution also points to the context of the word to be translated. English is a very compact and forgiving language. Often, one English word can be used for several slightly different but similar meanings, where you would need two or three variations in other languages to say the same things.

You're making us, translators, lazy.. Thanks for this!

Posted 3 years ago #
Prit
Pritlogger

Hey Bert. Thanks for your comment.

Just as an experiment, I tried the second option, where the words where plain english without the context and translated it using yahoo translate. Now with the translate language file, I have uploaded to a Spanish Blog.

Can you see if how the translation in spanish came out?
http://localhost/labs/pritlog48f/blogspanish.php

Posted 3 years ago #
Bert
Member

Hi Prit,

That link should be: http://www.hardkap.com/labs/pritlog48f/blogspanish.php

Yes, it looks like a Spanish blog to me, but you would have to ask John about its correctness/ readability. I don't speak Spanish, first language is Dutch.

Posted 3 years ago #
Prit
Pritlogger

Okay. Here is the dutch one.
http://hardkap.net/labs/pritlog48f/blogdutch.php/mainPage

I checked some words with your dutch translation and found that they are different. Maybe yahoo does not use the "bert" dictionary. Just kidding. I know that these automated translations are not right most of the time. They are just a starting point.

Posted 3 years ago #
massimo
Member

.... put all strings to be translated in a separate file is the ultimate solution. It would be great.

Posted 3 years ago #
massimo
Member

.. by the way i could supply the italian version ..

Posted 3 years ago #
Prit
Pritlogger

@massimo:
Do you mean like the option 2 on my first post on this thread?

Posted 3 years ago #
john
Member

Hi,

I checked the spanish test blog. I think that with english.php (option 1) translation can be much better.

Google's translation tool is great, but it seems to me that its accuracy improves with longer sentences where it can adapt verb tenses and words to the overall context. Not so good for short titles.

John

Posted 3 years ago #
Bert
Member
Hi Prit,

Thanks for the experiments with Spanish and Dutch.
The Yahoo translation to Dutch is hilarious and proves the fact that a human translator is still needed for this kind of work.

I couldn't resist showing you some of the Yahoo Dutch words, translated back to English here:
- About : More or less (like in "that dog weighs about ten pounds")
- Home : House
- Nex Entry : New Entrance
- RSS Feed : Feed RSS
- Links : Connections
- Hits : Strokes
- Delete : Wipe out
This was just for fun, I understand you used Yahoo as a quick test.

I think I would still prefer option 1, for the reasons explained. But if you would choose option 2, that would work as well. After all, a Pritlog translator will most likely be someone with a living interest in Pritlog. He or she will want to check the translated blog and make corrections until it's fine.
Posted 3 years ago #
Bert
Member
I'm not sure if this is the right place to point out words/strings that still need to be added to the translation list.

* Post "footer":
- - 'Posted on'
- - 'Category'
- - 'Visits'
* Menu : - 'Stats'

* Search : - 'Search' ( -beneath the field)

* Live validation : all strings

Can I add here, if I find more?
Posted 3 years ago #
Prit
Pritlogger

I think this will be enough reason to remove the livevalidation. I do not want to now start changing this script for translation. We will just have an asterisk as you suggested.

Please do keep adding any text that you find that is not translated. I think, when I release the files out, it would be easier for you to check it out. By end of this week, I want to release a beta.

Posted 3 years ago #
Bert
Member

to be added to translation list:

* Admin Page : -'pass', -'submit'

* Posts : -'*readmore*', -'view full post'

* Commments : -'First time? - remember the password you enter here
Otherwise - use the same password you used before'

Posted 3 years ago #
massimo
Member

Hi Prit, yes i mean a separate file with text to be translate would be much easier to handle. Maybe you should call it with two letters of the language instead of english.php. So it will be it.php for italian and en.php for english. Then add in config.php an option for the language.

Posted 3 years ago #
Prit
Pritlogger

Hi massimo,
I am making a separate file anyway. But, it will be using option 1. Where the variable name and the text to be translated will be present. I can change it to en.php. This is not a problem.

You will be able to change the language using the admin panel itself. As the admin panel manages the new config file.

Posted 3 years ago #
Bert
Member

You will be able to change the language using the admin panel itself. As the admin panel manages the new config file.

You keep surprising us.. really looking forward to the beta!

Posted 3 years ago #

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